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Graham Langdon Defends Future of EntreCard

by Jeff 3/1/2008 4:50:00 PM

My last blog post boldly questioned the future of EntreCard. My intention was to encourage us to take a look at the amazing growth EntreCard has experience thus far, and question if such growth can be sustained (economically, not technologically). It has sparked some excellent discussion and I thank you all for your comments and emails. I was especially delighted to receive an amazing and brilliantly articulated response from non other than EntreCard's founder, Graham Langdon. Instead of leaving it as a comment on the previous post, I felt it deserved its own post so I could share it with all of you.

Below is Graham Langdon's response to my post entitled "Warning! This Information Could Destroy EntreCard!"

To fully understand this debate, it must be understood that the EntreCard economy is based on an age old concept of backing your currency in something that has value.

A long time ago, the US backed every dollar in its economy with gold. It was called the gold standard, and as you can see, the second this backing was removed, and the Fed was granted the ability to print dollars out of thin air, the us dollar tanked in value:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d7/Value_of_US_dollar.gif

Now, right now, every credit in the Entrecard economy is backed in something that has value: a visit (or a click). Credits can not be earned without people visiting each others sites. And that simple action of visiting someone's site will ALWAYS have value, because in the grand internet economy, traffic and visits translate into money. Traffic is the reason why TechCrunch makes $200k per month. Traffic is the reason John Chow makes $30k per month etc. And the unit of traffic is the visit which, to come full circle, is what Entrecard Credits are backed in.

Now, considering that our chief domestic product is advertising (on over 5000 blogs), most of the credits in the economy get spend here. Well, this advertising is "taxed" at a rate of 75%. So 75% of all the credits that are spent on advertising simply get cleared out of the system, leaving the publisher with 25%, which he or she will then take, and spend on advertising yet again.

Now we throw into the mix our growing shop. A year down the road, there will be many times more items available in the shop than you see today. Most likely, there will be thousands as we are going to focus on this area of the site to grow moving forward.

The the eventual scenario in which the credit is used to purchase advertising on thousands of blogs, and buy thousands of products and services needed for bloggers, the credit will increase in value as it can be spent in more and more ways.

So, dropping 300 cards per day isn't any more detrimental to the system than working a full time job in any economy, and thus maximizing your earning potential. After all, you're still providing the core unit of value - the visit - to our members. Their posts still can catch your attention, draw you in, and turn you into a reader.

Now, on our end we have to create clever credit sinks to keep removing as many credits from the economy as possible. We're releasing two features that will serve us well. The first is a paid rank, where members simply bid for the top spots of the "paid rank" category. Another one is a classified board where members can post links and promotions by paying a flat credit fee.

In the end, if blogs become to expensive to advertise on, that actually is an indication of scarcity instead of weakness, and scarcity means your currency is valuable. Looking over all the priciest blogs, it seems there are long lines of members just waiting to pay their price. When people actually can't afford them, then we'll have something to worry about.

On a final note, think of everything like this. A coca cola used to cost a nickel back in yesteryear. Now it costs a dollar, but people make hundreds of dollars per week, instead of just 20. So maybe the prices of blogs will go up, but more people will be dropping cards on you in the meantime, increasing your passive income on the site.

EntreCard truly is a gift to us all. I want to thank Graham the time he spent crafting such an amazing response. He has definitely restored my faith in the future of EntreCard. How about yours?

Jeff

 

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3/2/2008 7:31:00 PM

Forest Parks

This guy is winning more and more respect from me.

I really enjoy using entrecard but have not fully used it's potential yet.

I am going to eventually try and sell things in the shop. Maybe avatars, maybe icons or something.

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3/2/2008 7:58:37 PM

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3/2/2008 9:57:21 PM

Tom Beaton

pretty good graham spoke back!
Entrecard is cool, I havnt received great amounts of traffic, but it is certainly a steady source of traffic.

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3/3/2008 5:24:01 AM

Grizzly

Traffic = Money. Really?

So how many of you are making any money from entrecard traffic? Be honest.

Entrecard is dominated by beginners who never had traffic until now and the initial reaction has been "wow" look at all the visitors. The problem is that social traffic does not spend money or click ads - it is simply traffic for traffic's sake. Sure you make some friends and develop relationships which is all nice but in six months from now everybody will start asking themselves what the point of all this is.

The only traffic that makes consistent money online is search traffic. This system is good for gaming Alexa and introducing people to new blogs (for the few that actually stop dropping long enough to read) but in the end it is little more than a banner exchange program which has been done and failed so many times before.

There is little value to entrecard in the long run and while many of you will argue with me let me point out that there are no established bloggers that would defend this system - it doesn't make money. John Cow tried to point this out before leaving and the lack of high traffic sites in the system (real traffic - not entrecard droppers) should be a wake up call. People can't spend their credits because there are so few sites in the system worth advertising on and people are beginning to realize this.

BTW - John Chow doesn't have search traffic - just readers which is why advertising on his site doesn't bring in the type of traffic that would spend money. Darren Rowse has search traffic and maybe a dozen other sites on here - that's it. Not a lot to choose from.

Unfortunately most of the entrecarders are not experienced marketers and don't know the difference between search traffic and social traffic but in six months they will - six months of wasting a lot of time dropping cards with no tangible results.

I'm not trying to burst anyone's bubble just pointing out something that a lot of people don't seem to realize - there is no value to entrecard credits.

People would be much farther ahead if they spent as much time learning SEO as they do dropping cards - ranking on top of the search engines brings in far more traffic and it's the type of traffic that is looking to buy what you are selling.


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3/3/2008 6:52:19 PM

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Ultimately, YOU, the site owner will have to determine whether Entrecard is worth your time. While the visitors/clicks may not equate to dollars up front, having that yardstick is shortsighted. If you're capturing attention and mindshare and you're building your brand and in the long run, that is far more valuable. My advice is to use an analytics package and keep track of how long a visitor stays on your site. This will give you an idea of your site's "stickiness".

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3/22/2008 8:33:09 AM

Simon

I really don't think it is as simple as traffic / visits / pageviews = money. Yes, it's a big factor, but some types of traffic have great value, whilst others have almost none.

If we take things to the extreme, the age-old traffic exchange programs can produce tonnes of traffic if you join enough of them, but most will agree that it provides zero value (other than a rise in alexa numbers). You could base a virtual currency off them, but it wouldn't work.

Even the big social networks are coming under scrutiny - can they be monetised effectively, and sustained in the long run? The $850 million spent by AOL on Bebo is a lot to spend on a site mainly populated by under 25s; some would say it's a big gamble for them to take, because pageviews aren't all created equal.

My worry is that EntreCard, whilst a good social networking tool for bloggers, doesn't really have a model that is backed by real long-term value when it comes to the matter of virtual currencies. Whilst I respect Graham's analogy with gold / the USD, I don't think it fairly reflects the status of EC by any means.

EC is a very interesting social experiment, if nothing else, and I look forward to its progress (whether that is up or down, your guess is as good as mine).

Simon gb

3/23/2008 6:59:00 PM

Jeff

I think everyone has the similar feeling about EntreCard. For now, its a fun way to get traffic. How valuable that traffic is remains a questionable topic. As it is right now, I don't think EC will be able to handle much more growth. With all the hype around it though, I am confident that it can evolve as needed to support long term growth.

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